Domestic and 'everywhere else' pricing query in ralation to new USA tariffs

[Luxulite]

UK-based shop here. Will Etsy provide a way to have different pricing for orders shipping to the USA when the new tariffs come into place? Currently we can only set item prices for domestic and 'everywhere else'.

We'll need to adjust pricing for US orders to cover these new charges which will be 10% of the selling price, but all other countries won't have this increase, so it seems unfair to charge them extra too!

[Shopbeetheone · Accepted solution]

The Seller handbook says "In the coming months, we will roll out tools to help you adjust prices based on country-specific tariffs, customs and duties. More to come."

Etsy can't solve this problem in only few days. It will take months and months for them to create a way to collect these tariffs

To increase our prices is not a solution, because it will also increase Etsy's commissions

Also, I don't know how it's works in the UK, but here in France, if I increase prices due to tariffs, it means I increase my turnover, which also means I have to pay more social security contributions and taxes. For a portion of the price of my product, which, in the end, is donated to the American authorities and does not even stay in my pocket

That's why small businesses just stop, for now, to send things to the USA

[UndergrowthStudio]

What I don‘t understand is why the customers can‘t pay the tariffs- just as we in the EU had to get used to customs duty and VAT after Brexit?

[CharitesVintage]

Etsy knows about this " problem" for months now. So this is not coming out of the blue. 

[peacockanddragon]

I also have stopped sending to the USA and I do hope it gets sorted. Already to send there from the UK, to the USA, prices are higher than to anywhere else.

[AnniebelloPaper]

You can set shipping for individual countries instead of using 'everywhere else'. It' cumbersome and clunking but that's the only option at the moment.

[UndergrowthStudio]

Yes, that‘s a real problem. Especially since for now, my postal service doesn‘t allow for ddp- so even if I increased the prices, there would be no way for me to pay the tariff. Just read today that many countries in the EU are suspending shipping to the US...such a mess.

[Shopbeetheone]

They can pay, that's not the real problem.

The problem is the new american law say: "No merchandise will be accepted on American soil if customs duties have not been paid in advance."

So the senders are now supposed to pay this fees, not the recipient. That way, American President can say "see? Other countries pay the bill, not american people".

On the same time, US governement didn't gave explanations to delivery companies and postal services about HOW they expect they collect taxes and how to reverse them to us authorities. That's why companies stop to accept goods to the USA.

And when this part will be over, and if Etsy didn't create a way for sellers to collect theses taxes, I suppose we'll have to increase a lot our shipping fees for US customers

It breaks my heart a lot, I've already receive kind messages from people in the USA saying they love my work and are waiting for the end of all this mess...

[LightworkersLadder]

I am in Canada.. so they say you cannot ship to the UK, now we cannot ship to the USA..UK and USA account for 85% of my sales!  I think they are not clear because the USA uses the threat as a negotiating tool and things change every few days or weeks.  We are caught in the crosshairs.

[MinnieMaudsAttic]

@LightworkersLadder   Who is saying you can’t ship to the UK?  The UK has nothing to do with the US imposing tariffs.  

[UndergrowthStudio]

Etsy may have known about this problem, but the actual legislation is volatile and last minute so there was no way to prepare- just like the postal services had no time.  It‘s not the exporting country that pays the tariffs, that‘s just not how it works- it‘s the importing country, meaning the American people. 

[CraftyCornishMaids]

no country pays tariffs

Tariffs are based on country of origin of the item, basically where it had it's last major transformation

so if you ship something from UK to USA with coo of UK, the tariff will be different than if you ship something from the UK with a coo of China

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The main thing that has happened, is that the USA doesn't have the capacity for USPS to collect everything owed, so Trump is trying to make sure everyone pays going through customs.

For couriers, it's business as usual, they have ddp and ddu options, and they do already pay when it goes through .... many have removed the ddu though, as they have decided it's too high a risk to bear

However, for postal systems, and carriers like chit chat and transglobal, they did not pay on the way through, they use USPS as the last leg, and USPS collected this

This no longer happens for goods

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With tariffs, its always the buyer that pays, whether they pay increased shipping charges, or increased prices