DexMex
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What’s considered a large shop?

I'm closing in on almost 200 prints and not sure what's considered a large shop. 200, 2,000. When do ever step back and hope you have enough selection for people? I guess you never stop.
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I've seen shops with 70 pages of items. . .that's A LOT!
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I would feel comfortable with my shop once I have about 10 items in every color and a good portion (5-10) of holiday items. Honestly, I don't think I'll ever come to a point where I will stop making items, but I will slow down after about 200.
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I just reached a bit over 200 and I'm comfortable with that now. It was a goal of mine for months to get there. I would like to have more items in some of my sections, so I wouldn't mind getting as high as 250 - 300. The shops I've seen with thousands are mainly supply shops. Trying to shop in a 20 - 30 page shop I find a bit unwieldy, but I can understand having as much as possible for the exposure all those listings would bring.
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I am almost to 300. I don't think you can ever have too much, because the way I see it is that the majority of buyers probably find your items, not necessarily your shop, through the search. My thinking is they have something particular in mind and will land in your shop that way...going for the desired item (and of course, hopefully browsing the rest of your shop too)! :)
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Gosh, I'm not even up to 100 yet...I guess I've got a pretty small shop!
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I suppose it depends on the product. I have over 500 listed in my Color Photography shop and over 200 in my Black & White Photography Shop. Sometimes I think that might be too much, but as Kim says many of your items maybe found through searches. You can never tell what will sell or not.
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I too am over 200 listings. Battled to get there. I think it is the just past the point of not a small supply shop. I would like to have 15 pages of items some day.
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I often seem to be the one who offers a different perspective. Here's what happens to me when I go to a shop with 10 or more pages of items. I get overwhelmed and the experience ceases to be pleasurable. When I used to go to malls, I called it my "mall fugue state." I'd just wander around, losing all sense of what I was there for. Same thing happens in a large online shop.

I think this is phenomenon limited to people who are on sensory overload when there are too many stimuli put in front of us at once. About 30% of the population of buyers is like me, so think about that for a minute. Do you want to be driving 30% of your potential customers away because you have too many things in your shop? Of course you don't.

So here's just a thought. For people like me, make sure your items are well sectioned. If you're going to have 70 pages of photos, and I just want to find a good flower or animal photo, section them off for me so I can just look at the ones that I want right then. If you do that, I'll be sure to come back again.

If I have to look at 70 pages of photos before I find something, I'll leave the shop on page 3.

This is just a short course on being a sensory overload person in a highly stimulating world. And you want to sell to us too, right? ;o)
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I agree Meredith. My eyes glaze over after about the 4th or 5th page.
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I was excited to get to 50 items items as of a few days ago! I guess that makes me a very small shop! But that's okay ..... I just have fun creating new things, and that takes time .... my goal is to be at 100. I agree with some of the others, that too much seems to be a little overwhelming.

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You make a good point Meredith. I get overwhelmed in big shops too. I went to a supply shop looking for chain and I truly got lost. The key really is using sections well - very important. And when I'm in a big shop looking for something specific, I use the search under 'this shop".
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I also agree with Meredith. If there's too many pages of items I'll click out of the shop. I want to shop on Etsy for supplies but unfortunately, a lot of supply shops have so much to choose from that it takes too long to look through their store. I'll do a search within the shop but I'm sure I miss stuff by doing that. I do think there's such a thing as too many items in a shop.
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Totally agree with Meredith! My shop is up to 142 items and I hope to make it to 250 items by the end of Oct.
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I agree and that is why my shop is organized by color way with little breaks for the shopper. I only have 9 pages. It will be almost a year from now before it is anywhere near 15 if I ever get there. 15 pages is not a goal it is a limit.
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I'm with you, Meredith. I get overwhelmed when there are too many pages as well. I just want to add that I get overwhelmed when there are too many pages in a section too -- like if someone has 142 items under "earrings". I've actually started using the search bar at the top to search "this shop" -- whatever shop I happen to be in.
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I've decided that my own personal limit will be 200 items, and I'm a long way from there now. I have 108 items, was up to 115 items but had some sales, and I'm not too fast to replace because I want my shop to be a place where people (many like me) come to peek, stop, sigh, and say, "Ahhh! I really want to look around here."

For those of you who want to fill your shops and pages, remember us: the many people on here who have said too much is sometimes, well, too much...and more of a turnoff than an invitation into a shop of any kind.

Think like a buyer, and keep in mind that 30% of the world population is exhausted by overstimulation. The other 70% is actually energized by it. So if you want 100% of your potential buyers to come through the door, don't make your shop what my grandmother used to call "overmuch."

I think there's a misconception on Etsy that, if 100 items is the magic number, it must be even more magical to reach 200, or 300, or more. If someone actually studied this, I bet they'd find exactly what many of us are saying. There's an upper limit (number unknown) where too many items begins to work against you instead of in your favor.

But if you happen to be in a milieu where your shop depends on lots of items, please section it thoughtfully, and know that many of us will thank you. ;o)
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I absolutely agree with Meredith. I love the phrase "mall fugue state" -- so true! I'm part of that 30%. And for me, it's doubly true on the Internet, where you have to focus so much to look at items on the screen and not wander off to do something more relaxing...or where your environment is competing in other ways for your attention.

My advice would also have been to section well. My shop is mostly ironic/funny cross stitch (at least in my mind), but some of my most treasury-listed and favorited items are the Hobo Signs, which are more mainstream and more beautifully photographed than, say, the monster-themed cross stitches I keep in the Monsterarium.

When I see views by Shop Section in my stats, I feel I'm doing my job properly in sectioning. (It's too bad I can't see which section people are looking at anymore, but still.)

I only have 45 items in my shop right now, and the sections are a work in progress -- but my goals for creating a sufficient but friendly shopping environment all relate to sections. I'm not thinking in terms of overall number of items (when I'm looking at someone's shop, I rarely go past the third page browsing, myself), but in number of items per section. My hobo signs section might be two or more pages someday, because those are smaller items, have a lovely mix and match quality to them, and they're easy to look at with neutral tones and backgrounds. But that doesn't mean I should have 3 pages of monsters unless there's definitely the market for it, or unless I can find a way to standardize photography and framing for all of those so it wouldn't be completely overwhelming to look at them all.
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Sherry's previous statement made me go to my site to count the pages...LOL!
But she's right most people want to do some looking not major research! I always strive for variety in color, pricing and style. You can't read folks minds and when you're looking for something specific that's your focus!

I think that there are still enough people out there who like warehouse stores and those who love the local grocery! :)
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It depends I guess. I am feeling quite overwhelm right now with the going in the stores. Not sales wise. Just behind the scene of a one-girl-operation. The store feel quite big to me with 200 items. Maybe when I get a hang of thing it won't feel too much. But I'll keep adding inventory not because I want to get bigger, just so I can sell more and buy more supplies. I love shopping for supplies. Such abundance... pretty things. Making finished pieces another fun part. The next part... going live, this I need tons of pep talk.

Now I am off the topic. I guess its in the eye of beholder.
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I also agree with Meredith. I did get up to 115 items, but with sales it keeps going down. I would like to have between 200 and 250 items by Christmas rush but doubt know if I will make it. If I do it will be because I have a variety of the same item in different fabrics. Even when I do have several fabrics to choose from, it seems my customers want something different, or that item in that fabric but in a different size than I have on hand (which is a real problem for those who try to make clothing ready to ship).

I do edit my sections periodically to make things easier for my customers.
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I think this is very true, Meredith. You are very correct.
Organization of items is key, I also try to rearrange my shop and keep the same style of product together, so that it comes up in the related items windows.

Otherwise, they are not at all related. I use and update "sections" frequently, as well.

I also, agree, though, that more items = more possible hits for your shop!
Balance is key! Good Luck to All! : )
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I also agree with you Meredith, I get overwhelmed or bored when I have too many options. I am at 76 items, took some pics today and hope to get them listed this afternoon, my goal is 100.
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I have around 150-160 items, I seem to stay around there, I am trying to get to 200.
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I'm not sure how big my shop will get. We will see what happens.
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