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How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

Hello everyone,

I own a new Canon Pro 9000 Mark II and I have been trying out some prints of my guestbooks and none of them come out the same color as what I am seeing on my screen!

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Monica
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

I'm assuming you mean between the printed product and the product on computer screen.
So here we go,
The coloring is different. A computer screen and a printer are set in two different colors.
Our computer screens (and camera screens) are set up to something called an additive color wheel and our printers a subjective color wheel meaning that a lot of the colors on our computer screen (that are shown by means of tint using light) are virtually impossible to print out on a printer.
What I usually do to solve this problem is up the saturation and brightness a bit. Might even want to give it some more contrast so that nothing gets blurred out when you brighten it.
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Thank you! Everything I have been printing out is a very different shade of gray than what I have been seeing on my computer. I will give it a try and see how it goes.

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Monica,

Calibrate your monitor using a device such as a Spyder.
I don't know what software you are using to print your images, but you should profile the image for your type of printer and paper.

I suggest researching on printer and monitor colour matching as it's not an easy thing to explain here.
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Thanks Rob!

I am using photoshop elements 8 and was going to upgrade to 11. I will look into the calibration device. "0)
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I could write a pretty long paper on ICC color profiles. First, you ned to be designing in a CYMK color profile

Printers and designers (and your customers) have faced this issue for ages. . Soft tones, pastels, and tones that stray away from our primary reds, blues and greens are great for print.

If you were to view a CYMK color gamut (If your using a mac, you actually have a free gamut viewer) you will notice 'white' does not exist in the gamut. All colors stem from Cyan, yellow and magenta and meet in the center (black). These print gamuts rely solely on the colors being laid on a white surface to complete the image. IE your paper.

In RGB you will notice all colors stem from white, and black does not exist. This gamut relies on a bright white light being the base for all color. And black, being the absence of color. RGB color gamuts are the widest, and most robust gamuts in existence. They mock the way the human eye creates color (or the human brain rather). And most importantly, this is how your computer monitor displays color.

Even though you have a CYMK color gamut chosen for your designs, its still being rendered by an RGB device (your screen). So the tones are generally correct, but they appear a bit brighter than what will be printed.

colors to avoid:
Bright orange (prints brown)
Navy blue (prints purple)
Rich grey (will always be heavy in either Cyan or magenta, use a % of black only)

And avoid designing in Photoshop. Switch to illustrator and Indesign, and you will never go back. I guarantee you wont regret it.

Good grief. I hope this makes sense, and that your still awake after the second paragraph!
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Thank you Michael!

That is awesome information! I will look into illustrator for sure!
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No problem, I know thats a very general comment. Let me know if you have any sepcific color trouble, and i'll do my best to help.
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Thanks so much! You have inspired me to purchase illustrator and InDesign. I'm going to do it today. :0) I will have many questions for you once I get them!
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Feel free - There is much to learn!
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

Hi Michael!

So it is downloading as I write this. Here is my first question for you. Let say for my shop purposes I want to make a print of my guestbooks either from a photo that I have taken of the original or a design that I make on illustrator. I should create it with CMYK color right? Let say I or my customers were to take it to a random printing place like office depot and not a "real" print shop. Would it print out nicely in CMYK or do I have to change it to RGB for home or office depot kind of printing?

Hope that makes sense.
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I just randomly stumbled into this thread, but ALL printers are CMYK based. So home printers, office stores, even large press ALL run CMYK. Nothing prints RGB, it is only shown on monitors such as computer, tv & phone as RGB.
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Thanks Rozena!

Ok, That makes sense now!
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I'm going to honest, your photo wont look the best printed on a commercial digital or offset press. Unless you have a press operator willing to take the time to print, and adjust, and print, and adjust.

You might consider keeping it in RGB (i know, i know) and have it printed at a place that does photo printing. This process is a light based chemical process (like developing) that will give you beautiful photos.

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You may get away with a simple photo (say grass, or a house, bricks etc) but photos of people, vibrant flowers, landscapes and animals tend to

1: come out very dark
2: come out under saturated and
3: too hot or too cold ie: too much Cyan or too much magenta (this is the press trying to render those beautiful reds and blues of RGB)
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Thanks for the tips!
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

Yup, I second the replies for investing in a calibration device - it will save you a lot of frustration and cost! From my own experience with Epson products, if you stick to the same manafacturer for both your paper and printer then you should get a much closer match from what you see on screen to what prints out as the exact paper type will be listed in the printer driver. If you wanted to try out different paper types from a different manafacturer to your printer make, then you'd be looking at getting a custom profile made for you.

It's quite a complicated subject from a technical point of view but thankfully, it's not really required to actually start getting good results.

Head on over to http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/ for some great info. It can get a bit techy from some of the regulars but their a friendly bunch ;)
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Thanks so much for the link DirtyGreatPixelsUK!

I have a Canon Pro Mark II and just ordered a sample pack of papers from Red River to see what kind of paper might work better on my home printer for my smaller prints, but I wonder if I should just stick to Canon paper to get that better match you were talking about. I guess I should also get a calibration device. Are there any that you would suggest besides SPYDER?
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

That's a nice printer from what I've seen - I Was looking at that a while back...
In terms of sticking with Canon paper - perhaps you could order some and see if you like it and then possibly try out other third party paper types as and when - I guess it all depends if you have a particular type that you want to try from the off? Perhaps if you stuck with Canon paper then it would be one less thing to worry about ;)
About which calibration - I have a Spyder3 Elite, but another brand which comes highly regarded is the Xrite products. I actually bought one of the new Xrite devices recently and though it was meant to be excellent hardware, the included software wasn't (in my opinion) up to scratch so I sent it back and got the Spyder. Whether or not they've (Xrite) updated their software is another question...!
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ps When I said `Canon` paper, I meant something tailored to your printer rather than generic `Canon` paper if that makes sense? Have a look on the Canon site and find your model and then it should have a list of supported inks/papers etc. Sorry if you've already done it or I'm being overly patronising - it's been a long day!
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

You have been wonderful! I totally appreciate all the information you have provided and I am going to look into the calibration device and the paper!

Thanks!!!!
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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

Hi guys, i'm looking to get my own Giclee printer for reproduction of my artworks, using archival..can anyone advise on what printer to buy? that will print well on archival paper..?

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Re: How do you get your printer to print the same color as seen on computer screen?

No probs Monica and good luck!

Monica & Edward - this is also a great site with in depth but not too heavy reviews including printers and colorimeters (monitor calibration)...
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PS I'm using Epson Ultrachrome pigment ink which is archival so this would tie you into Epson printers.. Its not cheap but you should get gallery grade prints using it! Good tip - It works out much cheaper to buy a printer with larger ink tanks. You'll spend more upfront, but in the long run it will be far cheaper to run- that is if your doing enough printing!
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews.html
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