Canadian sales tax missing on csv reports

[ArgusCollection]

Etsy is now collecting and remitting HST and GST to the Canada Revenue Agency. However, when I downloaded my July monthly order csv report the sales tax column is zero. I understand that this is because sales tax was not collected by me and added to my gross revenue but Canadians must still report what sales tax was collected and remitted as an Input Tax Credit on an annual GST report. Perhaps the designers of the new report don't realize that even if the seller didn't collect the tax it still must be reported annually by the seller when sales are over $30,000 annually. Can anyone tell me where to access the monthly amount of tax collected and remitted by Etsy?

[LOLScrunchCo]

If you are registered to collect GST as you are over the 30K threshold, you should be collecting this on Etsy (tax should be added into your price). So your reports will not show GST/HST breakdown as you have to do this manually for each transaction and then submit your taxes on your own when you file your annual GST report.  Etsy is not collecting/submitting tax for registered sellers, it is still your responsibility. 

Etsy is only collecting tax on those who are not GST/HST registered. So anyone who is under the 30K threshold and does not have a GST number will have tax collected. 

[ArgusCollection]

I am not sure you are correct. As of July 1, 2022 Canada requires Etsy to collect and remit sales tax. Prior to that date Etsy charged the buyer and added the sales tax to the seller's revenue. I then reported the tax as collected by me on my annual GST return. But since July 1 the column indicating how much the Canadian buyer was charged for tax is empty. 

[luxcrafter]

It is so far missing, and I expect etsy will have to provide this eventually.  Or perhaps I should say "should provide" as etsy has a propensity of not doing what sellers actually need.

[CraftyCornishMaids]

@ArgusCollection 

If you are not registered, and have not given etsy your HST/GST number

it will be on the payment account CSV, it has it's own line - sales tax paid by buyer remitted to tax authorities - it's a negative amount, as that is what they are taking off the total, to send to the relevant authorities

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If you are registered, you have to include it in your price, and do a "reverse calculation"  of the GST/HST to provide and remit to your tax authorities
It is your responsibility, not etsy's,
it will not be in any etsy file

[ArgusCollection]

I am registered and have been reporting tax collected for years. There was always a Sales Tax column in the csv file indicating how much tax the Canadian buyer was charged. It is now zero. To reverse calculate thousands of transactions in 10 provinces and 3 territories is a staggering amount of work. 

[TreeTreasuresCanada]

@ArgusCollection  When I check your shop, no GST is being added at checkout.  This means that you are registered (or Etsy believes you are registered) to collect GST/HST.  Effective July 1st, you needed to include the GST/HST in your prices.  The following is from this Etsy announcement;

"How will it work if I DO have a GST/HST on file? 

If you have a GST/HST number on file, Etsy WILL NOT collect and remit GST/HST from buyers in Canada for sales of goods. You should adjust your local prices to collect GST/HST as part of your profit and then remit to the CRA with your GST/HST filing. By adding a GST/HST ID to your Etsy account, you’re letting us know you’re responsible for handling your sales taxes. 

GST/HST will be collected on all your seller fees, including the payments processing fee, transaction fees, advertising fees, and listings fees and remitted to the CRA."

The methodology Etsy has chosen is obviously problematic and places registered sellers at a considerable disadvantage.  There are several threads about the issue and many of us have raised our objections but, so far, to no avail.

https://community.etsy.com/t5/All-Things-Finance/Canadian-Sellers-who-are-Registered-to-Collect-GST-...

[ArgusCollection]

This is going to be a huge problem. On all my Canadian sales I now see the sales tax added in then just below the sales tax in grey in brackets. Does that mean the sales tax was added in then taken off? And how do I know how much GST\HST has been collected on all the Etsy fees? Is there an accounting for these or somewhere on the data download where I can find it?

[TreeTreasuresCanada]

Oops, forgot to include Announcement link.

https://community.etsy.com/t5/Announcements/Updated-6-27-3-Important-Tax-Updates-for-Sellers-in-Cana...

[DavidandRau]

We sell a lot to the us.  There are state taxes that etsy collects from the buyer and remits to that state, thius our tax collected column is 0 in the csv sheet.  We dont have to do anything about us taxes

Similary if etsy collects and remits taxes in canada and your csv column is 0 the taxes have been collected and remitted.  You cant add and remit extra tax, nor can you claim these ads tax inputs or itc.  That is my personal take.  

[DavidandRau]

Nope i am wrong.  We made a personal account and tried a purchase frpom our etsy shop.  We are in sk and we see pst added to the invoice but no gst.  So i was wrpong in my last coment regarding gst. What a mess.

[CraftyCornishMaids]

@DavidandRau 

some provinces require etsy to collect the PST,
regardless of the GST/HST status, and who collects that

the tax Etsy collects, and sends off has a separate line in the payment account csv, not the orders csv

it looks like

Sales tax paid by buyer

Order#1234567890

Remitted to tax authorities

[ArgusCollection]

Back again! I just looked at an order from British Columbia totally $149.20. Etsy then added $10.44 to the order for a total of $159.64. However, the $10.44 is not listed as sales tax just added to the order. But when I look at the net to me that $10.44 is not included. So the buyer was charged $10.44 -- where did that money go? And if the buyer is already paying that $10.44 (though not coming to me as sales tax) how can I then raise the price of my items. That is essentially double taxing the buyer. 

[luxcrafter]

Etsy is adding the PST.  When you up your prices you do NOT include any province's PST in the price adjustment, only GST or HST.  Etsy will charge then the PST based on the raised GST/HST-included price.  Which wrongly inflates the PST too, but that's a different complaint.

[CraftyCornishMaids]

@ArgusCollection 

The $10.44 is PST

if you look at the payment account CSV, you will see the $10.44 is included in the "payment for order",
and deducted on a sperate line "sales tax paid by buyer and remitted to tax authorities"

You have to include the GST/HST in your price

[ChromaCelebrations]

There's a very good discussion about this issue here: https://community.etsy.com/t5/All-Things-Finance/Canadian-Sellers-who-are-Registered-to-Collect-GST-... 

Cindylouwho2 also has a comprehensive article about the topic that includes verified seller experiences on her blog, if you wanted to see a more condensed version.

[TreeTreasuresCanada]

@ArgusCollection  "And how do I know how much GST\HST has been collected on all the Etsy fees?"  So far Etsy isn't charging sellers the GST/HST (or PST in BC)  on seller fees.  @cindylouwho2  did question Etsy about this and, if I remember correctly, the gist of the reply was that they haven't yet determined how they'll do the coding.

A note on PST.  Etsy collects and remits PST for all applicable provinces (Quebec may be an exception if you are QST registered) so you do not receive these funds.  If you are GST/HST registered, you need to include the tax in your prices.