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Things are tough when your category has 2,000,000 items, and you have 40.
You must do everything possible to give yourself a chance to be found. I dont see that in threads compalining about low views.
And, it isnt that hard, nor does it take much time to have good tags and titles. Ignore all that constant "tweaking" noise you read about. Do it right the first time, and you can spend the tweaking time making things.

I have learned the following from the Queen of SEO:

1.Your title is not the name of your item. It is a 70 character string whose goal is to get your item found by etsy search.

2. If you cant tell exactly what the item is by reading your tags, your tags stink. Those words are what people search on. If I had a dime for every purple necklace that had neither purple nor necklace in the tags, I would have a lot of dimes.

3. Words in your title must show up in your tags. If Blue scarf is in your title, blue scarf needs to be in your tags.

4. Use as many of the 20 characters in your tags as possible. Blue scarf as one tag is better than blue, then scarf as two tags.

5.Read about SEO at cindys seo group. she is very wise. http://www.etsy.com/teams/10713/cindylouwho-team/discuss/10196168/

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you make my laugh :)
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Thank you so much for my critique Alex! It's full of great tips and it made me laugh. I really appreciate you taking the time to take a look at my shop. I'm am bookish but not too organised.

This critique also generated a sale from the nice lady who posted underneath. Thank you so much inkleing
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Ha Ha Alex! So I have my eye on your Blue Moon Mosaic but it's okay I an old tree hugging hippe vegan that loves to kayak on the river and run with the dogs......57 going on 25!
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@ Emily..........You are welcome :)
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Just checking out Wanelo as suggested by Alex. Not sure what to do with it so if there are any Wanelo uses out there any tips would be great
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Alex, thank you so much for the critique! I will definitely get to work on my tags. Also, I love the youtube link. I didn't know there was a tune for Merry's song. Oops. Very entertaining and helpful - thank you thank you!

Can you (or someone) answer this question for me about tags - if I put, for example, "red blue pink" in one tag, rather than each of them a separate tag, is that better? Am I just as likely to get found if someone searches just one of the colors? (Still learning!)
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Oh Help, I'm just lost. People that see my work gush over it. I think I am in a hard spot. My work is totally unique, high quality and time consuming. I try to keep my prices low. But they are way higher than others that are selling butterfly work. I can't lower my price or it would cost me to make them. Do I raise prices to put it in a different bracket? I know I have a good product am I just not getting seen? Am I listing poorly. I'm ready to cry.
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Alex, thank you so much for the critique! I will definitely get to work on my tags. Also, I love the youtube link. I didn't know there was a tune for Merry's song. Oops. Very entertaining and helpful - thank you thank you!

Can you (or someone) answer this question for me about tags - if I put, for example, "red blue pink" in one tag, rather than each of them a separate tag, is that better? Am I just as likely to get found if someone searches just one of the colors? (Still learning!)
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put those in search and see what comes up
I was surprised
that is the best way to check on anything
put it in search and see what pops up
no onw knows the answers to those types of questions unless they run the test.
So... dont believe everything you read.
test it
I am sure you have had stat courses
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Thanks! I will do some trial and error to see what works best!
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Well, I'm not a newbie, but I'm sure not getting found. Am in the process of reworking my listings, adding variations to boost item count and getting some pendants made.
Critiques greatly appreciated, Thanks
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Re: Why you are not getting found newbies

pat from ct

http://www.etsy.com/shop/FlutteringWings

pomfret center, ct

doesnt that mean french fry??

pam is frustrated. she ran into the wall. that hurts. my wall was stone. some people quit and go home after that. I climbed over it. Who will pam be in the face of adversit? Pam gets to choose.

butterfly stuff
oh boyski
pam does beautiful work
pam is all about butterflies
wow
pam has a butterfly sanctuary
i have a butterfly bush
is there a better butterfly plant?

thanks for explaining that you dont pull off the wings of living butterflies to make stuff. alex was worried.

pam uses rice as a backdrop.
alex saw that at his first show.
some pics have a drab background. gray and dull

It matters less for pam, as she is in a microniche.
pam donates all proceeds a butterfly project

do you wear your stuff?
every day?
i know a jewelry chick who sells a lot that way.
She now does stuff for aerosmith and glamrockstars

57000 results for butterfly jewelry
wow
20,000 for pendant
13,600 for earring
5400 for butterfly art jewelry
it is too long for a tag, but not for a title
have you tried that?
alex is pretty sure if you began your title with that, that you will be first page

you do have some competition, surprisingly
why are you better?

17% of all butterfly jewelry sold on etsy is over $50
so, there is a market for your price
20% of butterfly pendants go for over $32

your shop is fine

fine tune your tags and titles to get into less competitive keyword searches
join the cindylouwho seo team

If you choose to get around the wall, there is a mountain and a river to get by later on.
That cant be helped. We all have the same path. What can be helped is who is Pam in the face of that.
Let me tell you, I did Not want to hear that crap when I was struggling. It wasnt me, it was Them. I pouted. I cursed. I was casting pearls before swine.
Very unworthy swine with bad taste.
Do not read those threads about HOW ETSY KILLED MY BUSINESS.
they are bullshit.
It will seep into your head and change your approach.

If you keep doing the right things in the face of adversity, you will get the right result.
eventually

keep the faith pam.

without faith, we are swine with bad taste.
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Thank you for all the tips! If you have to time to peek at my shop and offer any advice, I would greatly appreciate any input.
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Artist, poet, comedian, philosopher, teacher, entrepreneur......very impressive Alex. You are quite the Renaissance man!
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Do not read those threads about HOW ETSY KILLED MY BUSINESS.
they are bullshit.
It will seep into your head and change your approach
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very true, too many folks fell for that...
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Jess:
I ship from Hungary, just Airmail. Some countries you have to pay more, some less. I wouldn't take $8 loss on a $19 pendant... Adding tracking number would be $4, insurance $1.60 per $20 worth, I saved a lot of money by not paying those...
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hmmmmm Thank Chris it's Pam from french fry land.

Short answer Butterfly Bush is one of the very best Nectar Plants "if" it's not invasive in your area.

To have "Butterfly Art Jewelry" in my title don't they have to search specifically for "Butterfly Art Jewelry" for it to come up in a search? deep sigh.

In my latest postings I do a big explanation as to why mine is different I thought that was maybe too much.

Pics are hard with the resin flashing back. I try to use interesting backgrounds, but then I see others with plain backgrounds that sell a lot. oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Interesting backgrounds 'Check"

Join Cindylouwho check

When listing a piece in Categories I end at "Jewelry" the next category has nothing for me. I wish they would put "Butterflies" in the last column where they are looking for material because I use polymer clay but it's not a polymer clay piece. I use resin but it's not a resin piece. I use beads but it's not a beaded piece. Should I just use the poly, resin and beads alternatively just to pop up somewhere?

But now categories are out and I'm reading that we have to start listing different to get found now. The search is more like Pinterest. I don't seem to fit in anywhere there either. So sad. What to do?

Pam from french fry
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OMG thank you for the song I love it lol! Taking your feedback to heart and will work on those tags!
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Btw... yes it is raining the hounds of hell here right now.
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Pam Lee, your pieces and your story are beautiful :) Well done!
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Pam from Frech Fry - beautiful work indeed
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Alex... would you please critique my shop? You are quite amusing! :)
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Thank you Michele and Sizzlestrapz.. Now if I can find my niche in this marketing business. I look at the people that are selling a lot and I scratch my head. "What do they know that I don't"

Going to look at your shops now.

Hugs
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How is my shop doing?
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hmmmmm Thank Chris it's Pam from french fry land.

Short answer Butterfly Bush is one of the very best Nectar Plants "if" it's not invasive in your area.

To have "Butterfly Art Jewelry" in my title don't they have to search specifically for "Butterfly Art Jewelry" for it to come up in a search? deep sigh.
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no.
if you have those three words in your title in that order, and butterfly jewelry art in your tags, then you would be very relevant for:
butterfly, art, jewelry, butterfly art, art jewelry
5 tags in one
if you do that for all 13 tags, you will have 65 tags
I may have said to use multi word tags a time or a thousand. That is why.
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In my latest postings I do a big explanation as to why mine is different I thought that was maybe too much.
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I missed it
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Pics are hard with the resin flashing back. I try to use interesting backgrounds, but then I see others with plain backgrounds that sell a lot. oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Interesting backgrounds 'Check"

Join Cindylouwho check

When listing a piece in Categories I end at "Jewelry" the next category has nothing for me. I wish they would put "Butterflies" in the last column where they are looking for material because I use polymer clay but it's not a polymer clay piece. I use resin but it's not a resin piece. I use beads but it's not a beaded piece. Should I just use the poly, resin and beads alternatively just to pop up somewhere?
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sure.
experiment
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I will do an example for tagging in the next post

pay attention..
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wow! i'm so excited i found this thread. there are so many great suggestions here. i would be so happy to have my shop looked over. any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.
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