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upped my sales but slow

I've sold two items with direct checkout, of which I'm very grateful, but I can't get over the lag time. I'm used to shipping out the item day of not waiting 5-7 business days. I feel like it puts a strain on my customer service. I really hope a quicker process can come to light. Until then, Thank you Direct Check Out!
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You still ship right away. You don't get the money until after you ship. Once etsy sends you the email saying you have a sale, the money is there.
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Am I understanding that you are not shipping for 5-7 days because your customer pays with direct checkout?
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Hi,

So I like to wait until the money is in my bank account. So until it is, I don't ship. One out of the two times I just didn't have the money to ship it out of pocket. :(
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I ship out usually on the same day. I was told you have to hit the ship button to activate the money to your account. Am I right?
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Yeah. I mark it as shipped but the money is still delayed 3 days. :(
I explain it in my shop policy and for each item description, so they are aware of how it's handled, but still I feel the lag time is overboard.
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Sounds like what you are doing is totally against policy even though you are at least letting your customers know what you are doing. If you can not wait to ship until you have the money for the sale, I am thinking you are going to need to dissable direct checkout and go back to paypal. Direct checkout is not set up to be used this way, and it is sure to get you into trouble at some point with the Etsy team.
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I agree with griffincat - you are going to get "reported" if you are marking the item shipped, waiting for the deposit, and then sending the items. When a customer purchases using DC, they are agreeing to a different set of rules, ones that you agreed to when you signed up for DC. I don't think Admin. will agree that stating how you are regulating DC is an okay way to handle the lag in funds. Sorry, but I think if you need the funds upfront then you discontinue DC and just use PayPal.
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The delay is way too long. No other merchant service has this kind of wait, it's almost prohibitive for higher priced or custom orders. I use intuit go pay at Brooklyn flea and it takes 1-2 days max before the money is in my account.

As for the policy issue: According to the terms of use you are obligated to ship the item only after the transaction is complete (after you mark the item as shipped) not after you physically ship the item. In the FAQ section it essentially tells you to wait three days to ship after marking the item as shipped. I hope this clears it up, I have cut and pasted the following from the DC terms of use:


c. The use of Direct Checkout must be solely for the sale of items listed on Etsy. Registered Seller agrees to ship sold item(s) once the Payment Transaction is complete and reflected in the Shop Payment Account. Etsy reserves the right to terminate Registered Seller’s access to Direct Checkout if Seller is determined to be using Direct Checkout for transfer of funds not related to the sale of items listed on Etsy.


4. Deposits

a. All funds resulting from a completed Payment Transaction will be reflected as a balance in Registered Seller’s Shop Payment Account. Payment Transactions are considered complete once the payment is approved and Registered Seller has marked the sold item as “shipped” using the tools made available in Registered Seller’s account by Etsy. Any refunds, adjustments, or other amounts paid to Buyers in connection with purchases, or for funds received since the last Payment Day, as defined in Section 4b, are also applied to Registered Seller’s Shop Payment Account balance. Funds in a Shop Payment Account balance are eligible for deposit (“Available Balance”) into Registered Seller’s Bank Checking Account at the end of any applicable deposit delay, reserve, or hold period as defined in Section 4d.


When do funds become available for direct checkout payments?

Once a sale is made through direct checkout, you’ll be notified via email. Your order will be listed under Your Account > Sold Orders, as well as in the Pending Transactions section of your Shop Payment Account.

The amount from your sale, minus payment processing fees, is available for deposit to your bank account once the order is marked as "shipped" and any applicable deposit delay passes since the sale. The majority of shops have a standard deposit delay of three days.

For example: If you ship the item three days after the order is made, the payment is immediately available for deposit. Conversely, if the item is shipped earlier than three days, the payment will not be available for deposit until after three days since the order passes.
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I don't have an issue with the system. I mark shipped on the invoice and off the post office to mail package to customer. Then on the next Monday funds are in my account. I think it works for both buyer and seller.

All of my sales now have been through Etsy Checkout. It seems the customers buy quickly without being directed to Paypal. It's worth the delay to me. To me there is no perfect solution. The buyer waits for items after they have paid so to me I guess I wait for the funds to be available.
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Based on what Chris attached, the funds can be made available for deposit after three days (only after marked shipped). However, it sounds like the item should still only be marked shipped if it was shipped (see For example in last paragraph). Then if shipped on the third day and marked as such, the funds are available.

There is an expectation that if you mark an item shipped it will be shipped that day. See below from Etsy.

How can I indicate that I fulfilled an order and notify my buyer that the order has shipped?

Please keep in mind that when you mark your order as shipped, you won't be able to reverse this action. There are times when you may not be able to make it to the post office in time or UPS won't be able to pick up your order the same day. Before you navigate away from the page, make sure that you will be shipping that day. If you decide that you won't be able to ship the day that you mark it shipped, unmark it before navigating away.

If you're using direct checkout as a payment method, you won't be able to receive payment for your item until you've fulfilled your order.
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Here's my personal thought:

If you're living paycheck to paycheck and can't get items out because you don't have the money to pay for them out of pocket, Direct Checkout isn't the problem. Working on budgeting and living below your means will not only solve this problem, but will mean a less stressful life in general. There's so much advice and help on this, it's worth trying. I found "The Complete Tightwad Gazette" to be very, very useful in getting my financial house in order, and feel so much happier not having to wonder where the next cent will come from.
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Customers pay, wait, receive. We ship, wait, receive. Sounds fair to me!!
If I couldn't pay postage, I'd have to take a serious look at what's going on in my financial world!! Just a thought.
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