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Converting Grinding Machine into Polishing Machine

Hi all!

I have an old grinding machine that I am intending to turn into a polishing machine. I have taken off the wheels, guards, etc...and what I'm left with are two straight shafts. I have looked online and have found that I can buy tapered shafts to connect to it for about $16 plus shipping (a great deal, no?).

My question is has anyone else done this and how has it compared to a 'real' polishing machine? The motor I have is comparable to any of the polishing machines so I'm hoping that it will behave just like a 'real' polishing machine?

The next steps are to build some sort of box (probably just out of cardboard with the front just clear plastic and holes for hands and hole for vacuum for now) and set up some sort of light within the box. Advice on that would be great, too!

Thanks everyone and happy metalsmithing!

-Erica
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Erica, yes and yes.

That's what I've used for about 34 years.

Short of time at the moment, have to run to town etc but later this afternoon I'd be happy to pass on what I've learned about that and the vacuum system.

Lots of little useful details. Kudos to you for venturing into 'homemade' tools.

In the meantime could you check the RPM speed of the grinder? There will be a little plate attached somewhere with the data.

Back later.
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A few notes -

When you get the threaded tapered shafts make sure they will run true. I rarely bother to send things back, but the first pair I got had a serious wobble. They should run with virtually no detectable wobble.

A motor speed of 3450rpm - probably what you have - is good. The surface speed of the buff, especially with tripoli, will make a 5" to 6" diameter buff close to optimum. It's a continuum, so a 4" buff will work, just won't cut as fast.

For exhaust, I have a box with a large squirrel cage blower - say an average house furnace size - and it blows through a furnace filter and recycles the air. If you have a warm climate and the chance to exhaust outside, that's better, the less restriction the better. Only if you work with gold is collecting the residue important.

I used to have both spindles mounted - tripoli and rouge buffs -but elected to just use one for any buff so I could have a more direct suction from one place.

Mine is wide open, no cover, the suction is enough that little escapes. I've never used anything with a cover but I'd think it would quickly get enough dust and gunk on it you wouldn't be able to see properly And you really will want enough range of hand movement to hold the piece being buffed in many orientations and even body positions.

Oh, never be tempted to wear gloves, I usually use folded paper towels to hold things, keeps the heat from the fingers and will tear easily enough.

And never be tempted to polish chain on it.

So much more I can't think of right now....
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I knew Cg would chime in with the info - but this is what I have and use too.
And to emphasize what CG said - NEVER EVER attempt to polish chain with it
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I'm going to follow along here. This machine I've been given actually turns and came with various wheels and accessories...
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Great! I am excited to hear this has been a successful alternative to buying a very expensive polishing machine!

Cg, the motor is a 1/2 HP and has 3450 RPMs. I only have some 4" wheels, but I'll test them out and if they don't work they're easy to replace!

My challenge will be the box/ventilation because it's in my store (my new store! I just ventured from an in-home shared studio space to my own open studio/retail space!) and I need to keep it clean of course. In my other studio we just built a box out of cardboard with a light on top and clear plastic in front with three holes for hands, and a hole on the side of the cardboard for a regular vacuum tube-thing and it worked great! I'll probably stick to that for now and move on to some better form later. Like clear plexi? Or if anyone has a better idea?

Also, I always wear rubber gloves when I polish! I've never had a problem with it! The master that I apprenticed from has used gloves all her life and swears by it! We just use rubber cleaning gloves (that are the appropriate size for our hands). It's funny how we all do things differently, huh?

Yes, no polishing of chain. And keep your hair up! I witnessed first hand a girl in one of my classes years ago get a chunk of her hair ripped out because it got sucked into the polishing machine. It is a machine we must use with respect, that's for sure.

Well, I am excited to get going on this project. I have been using my flexshaft as a polisher (not the best alternative) or just hand polishing for a month or so, and it's getting old. I LOVE the look of a beautiful high shine polish on silver. Thanks for all the advice everyone! Happy sunday! :-)
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Re: Converting Grinding Machine into Polishing Machine

Erica, I also had a store with workshop inside for 12 years, keeping it reasonably clean was a constant battle.

Can you vent outside?

I guess I polish more agressively, I need the insulation of eight or sixteen layers of folded paper towels, just hold it in a pinch grip, hands can stay clean too.. I'd likely melt rubber gloves, and it would soften the skin too much.

I'll convo a pic of my suction box, too ugly for public consumption.
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I was always taught gloves were a big no-no, but to each their own.

CG- can I see the ugly suction box too?
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Re: Converting Grinding Machine into Polishing Machine

here is a box I did out of plexi glass ashop vac hose fits on the hole in the back...it looks new cause it is I did have another one for about 15 years
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eyemaginationrsb/5991183543/in/set-72157627192921823/
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