I'm a seller on Etsy and always had a 100% response rate with buyers.
I bought from another seller on Etsy and was communicating on one message thread. Then she started another message thread just to say thank you and I never responded because it wasn't something that needed responding to. So, Etsy knocked me down to 80% for that. What??
Do I have any recourse here?? Can I get that "bogus late response" removed?
Julia
Unfortunately for you, the rules (on your Star Seller dashboard) say that EVERY MESSAGE COUNTS. Just like the 1000s of other Forum threads with your same complaint.
And no--unfortunately they will not remove it.
Many sellers have a separate buyings account here. You might consider opening one so that your buying activity does not reflect on your business.
So, I'm replying to my own message to clarify. I failed to mention in my original post that I had contacted the Seller first via the "Note to Seller" box while placing the order.
This is the first time I've experienced RECENTLY where the message was NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE THREAD I HAD STARTED WITH THE SELLER as with all other links like "Request Custom Order", "Contact Shop Owner", and/or the "Contact" link under your profile would start only one thread. In my opinion, the "Note to Seller" feature when placing an order should be acting the same way as those other links and only start one thread. Not multiple ones.
When she responded to my message, I thought it was in response to my message to her. Why it appears as a new message thread to my original message is a glitch in the messaging system.
It is a glitch and/or oversight as it would go against the Etsy notification on top of all our message tabs that states:
"We've made it easier to stay on top of Messages
Starting June 30, messages from the same buyer will be combined into one thread—so you'll have fewer conversations to keep track of, and can easily track your relationships with buyers."
I don't think this is a "not following the rules" type of scenario. I don't think a Buyer or Seller should be responsible or have their metrics downgraded for a glitch in the messaging system. But on the other hand, if it fails to be seen or corrected, I do have to accept that I'm on someone else's platform despite the glitches.
Unfortunately for you, the rules (on your Star Seller dashboard) say that EVERY MESSAGE COUNTS. Just like the 1000s of other Forum threads with your same complaint.
Wonderful.
And no--unfortunately they will not remove it.
Awesome.
I know that a help request message does not combine with other messages that the same user sends but I thought all regular convos were supposed to combine.
Trust me I know that you are supposed to answer all messages but does anyone know the actual deal about messages combining. I know that in my shop the messages have been combining from the same user (it actually makes it VERY confusing if you have alot of messages from the same person)
But i am seeing people still having this issue despite the fact that etsy stated that now all messages from the same user would be combined. Does anyone know if there is a glitch with this or if there is something else going on where maybe it is in fact help requests or possibly the same person sending a message but maybe through another account since I have had no issues with the messages combining personally.
Sounds like there is still a glitch unfortunately because the convo definitely wasn't on the same thread.
was one of the messages labeled with help request? if you are on the main message page it should say that under where it just shows a little blurb with part of the message. For some dumb reason those don't combine. I guess etsy can't tell the difference between the 2?
Many sellers have a separate buyings account here. You might consider opening one so that your buying activity does not reflect on your business.
Good to know. I have two stores but never considered opening just a personal account for buying.
@cutebutton
No. It was a direct message via the "Note to Seller" box when ordering. She responded but it showed up on a new message thread in my "messages" tab.
that's weird. Are you 100% sure that is what was counting against you. That shouldn't count at all as a message because it's just a note to the seller on the order (if what you are referring to is the note that shows up on the order receipt)
Did you download your message history to check that?
@PawsPrintLove Etsy does not differentiate between between buyer and seller. Her response to the note does show up in messages as a new message. You needed to respond or spam.
You are a shop owner and the system does not look at the messages to see that in this case you were a buyer.
@cutebutton
I'm 100% sure. Etsy allows you to download your messages and they break them up to the ones you didn't respond to. That was the message they dinged me for.
Mark it as spam. Your seller rating will be fixed within a week.
Would this affect the seller I bought from?
No, the seller you send to spam doesn't know you did it.
I always had a 100% respond rate. I've been selling on Etsy since January 2018.
Put it in spam now and it should come off in a day or 2. It won't give you a November star if that was prevented by it, but you won't have to fight it for 2 more months. Live and learn.
Thank you! I did mark it as spam. I'll see what happens next. Yes, it did prevent me from getting Star Seller status.
How is that so many people have the same issue, and there is no avenue for redress or remedy? Probably the same reason they will delete this reply and all the other posts i make about the same issue. The captain loveth us not
"People" don't read the rules and "assume" they've been wronged.
"How is that so many people have the same issue?" Well, it is not, actually, an issue as it is just the way the Messaging Metric works. Why so many people have a problem is because they read the "bits" they want to read and ignore the "bits" they do not.
"there is no avenue for redress or remedy?" There would be nothing needing "redress or remedy" if the rules were followed in the first place. Actually, it is not so hard to follow messages and "Reply" or "Spam". Those are the "tools" Etsy provides all Sellers.
Personally, I am not a fan of the "Spam" function being used (often way outside the 24 hour window which applies to all other messages) simply to clean up missed messages and SSP statistics, but Etsy has created this loophole and many people use it quite often to their own advantage.
I wish there was a third option for those messages that didn't need a reply but were not spam.
Most of us think those messages need a reply - like "thank you" or "you're welcome".
Every time a seller says "they were just thanking me - it didn't need a reply" - I sort of cringe. Since when did politeness go out the door?
How many people in life say "thank you" and you walk away without replying? Just because you can't see that person doesn't mean they should be ignored.