Well ths is all crap

[Former_Member]

Maybe this will get knocked out but i have a store in a local Amish market place. There is a gal here who sells American Girl. Big booth lots of stuff and some she supposedly makes. There are absolutely no labels on any of her things. Absolutely nothing. She has zippers, button and all sorts of things that I am sure has lead. She has had some of them in her place for awhile. She has not pulled anything or changed and added any tags to her things. There are not tags from American Girl either. It only has her business name and this markets address like she always had. We worry so much on here trying to be compliant with the CPSIA but I am sure there is no one policing it. It is sad, I sit here and pulled all my kids things and yet she keeps on going and who is going to stop her. the CPSIA.. No they are not policing this. Knowing this I am going back to making my things for the kids. I will be certain they are free of those nasty things but I am not spending the money to have them tested. Not until they really really take notice of the rest of the world.

[Former_Member]

from what i've read she's actually not doing anything wrong until today, when the law goes into effect.

[Former_Member]

is this just for clothing items? I make soap am I affected by this too?

[UniquelyEwe]

Adding what I've read: The law isn't retroactive so items made before today are o.k. Correct? (fingers crossed) I just won't be adding any more children's items. This entire episode has frazzled my nerves! :-0

[SewFunDollClothes]

The labels aren't required for things made prior to today ... only those items made from today on.

[Former_Member]

Why are you sure her things contain lead?

[Former_Member]

so just to clarify, if we have things currently made, but we don't sell them until next month, they don't need to be labeled? what if you list them after today?

[Former_Member]

I feel for you, waterfallcrafts. It's a source of frustration for me as well. However, I'd rather do my best to comply with the law (crap-o-la that it is) to the best of my abilities, rather than fly in the face of it. I am only accountable for my actions, and you yours, she hers, etc. If (on the off chance)someone has an issue with an item she sells, it's on her.

Have you ever spoken with her about the CPSIA? Does she know about it yet, or is she one of the vast majority who aren't aware?

[Former_Member]

waterfallcrafts says:
...She has zippers, button and all sorts of things that I am sure has lead.
...I am going back to making my things for the kids. I will be certain they are free of those nasty things but I am not spending the money to have them tested.
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You're sure someone else's stuff has lead, and you'll be certain that yours doesn't, without testing either one.

uh-huh.

gotta love the logic that if one other person isn't following the rules, then i don't have to either.
and gotta love the wisdom of publicly stating that you aren't going to obey the laws designed to protect children.
brilliant.

[Former_Member]

wow

[Former_Member]

I think the labels and/or tests need to be done starting with today.

[Former_Member]

reading

[Former_Member]

I think she's actually OK until today meaning anything she makes/buys after today she has to tag. All the stuff she currently has is just fine. But I know there will be people who don't totally follow the law, and I'm sure some of us will misstep in the beginning but I'm trying to learn as much as I can so OUR craft booth and store don't suffer if someone DOES come by!

[Former_Member]

Maybe she doesn't know anything about the CPSIA.

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

The labeling really doesn't have anything to do with testing. Labeling your product ala CPSIA doesn't mean that your product is tested. It doesn't mean really a darned thing other than you have follow the sheeple rules.

There us no rule that we must show a label stating that our product complies, in fact, no one but CPSA can require proof that we comply.

I can't look at a zipper, a button or anything and state that it is non compliant. And I've been sewing/ designing/working in the industry for 58 years. Yes, somethings I would be suspect of, but there isn't a "smell" test.

My feeling is, don't worry about your neighbor, just worry about yourself. I'm not going to jump thru evey government hoop, not with this administration, I'll do what I need to do to insure that what I'm selling is not "hazardous", but I'm not going to lose sleep over someone else selling in another shop.

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

And the law went into effect a year ago, and parts of it in Feb, some again today, again in feb of next year, everone just needs to keep up with it.. And vote the A&*^ s ho(*& les out.

[woodponddesigns]

I'm sure this seller doesn't know about the law. Maybe you could share what you know so she can make her products safe

[TheRubyKittenCo]

i can certainly see where your frustration comes from, I see it all around me everyday. (I have my LittleBittyBakery shop on hold until I wade through all this and figure it out!)

[Former_Member]

You cannot worry about what other vendors do as you have no control over it.

Do your own work the way you want it to be done.
If you are in compliance with the new directives, put a sign up in the shop that indicates so. It is a great advertising feature.
If you are not in compliance, say nothing and go with the flow.
But saying on a public board that you will not comply is not too smart.
But don't put down others work. Not good karma or etiquette.

[MamaFamilias]

Nobody ever said there was going to be policing for small crafters. Its almost an honor system.

I would let the organizers of the market know about the CPSIA laws and suggest that they spread the word among sellers. They aren't responsable, but the discovery of a non-compliant seller is the wrong kind of advertising and could hurt you too.

[PurpleSageDesignz]

You would be surprised how few people are really informed about this law and its deadlines for certain requirements.
I see thousands of kids products offered today and I am certain that the makers probably are not even aware of CPSIA.
But I have to worry about myself (and since I am not a mum of small kids I don't purchase kids items) and I have pulled all child products a while ago.
I know that not offering kids hats means missing out on a chunk of biz, but knowing about CPSIA makes it so much harder to ignore legal consequences...sometimes ignorance is a bliss. (No insult meant:)

[MamaFamilias]

It is illegal to use CPSIA compliance as advertising. However, you are allowed to state that you are compliant. Not sure where the line is drawn...

[Former_Member]

I am sure that MANY people have no idea about this law.

[Former_Member]

Hmm, has anyone talked to her about this?

[SeabloomArt]

i honestly wouldn't have known about this law if i hadn't been to these forums