Making rings for an infant

[#1]

Hey all, I was just asked to make a ring for an infant. My first instinct is that I wouldn't even let my child hold a ring until they were 3- it would have gone straight in their mouths. HOWEVER, I know not all people feel the same.
My question is if there are laws that prohibit making jewelry for babies?
I apologize beforehand if I sound uninformed on this matter- I am!

[Former_Member]

I have a boat in Norfolk u.k, last winter on a very windy day, a boat was about to moor up in front of us when a little dog on a leash jumped off dragging a little girl into the river. The river was tidal and running very fast and it was only the fast actions of my nephew and hubby who jumped into the icy cold water that brought the little girl and dog to saftey. The fact is, the dogs little collar had got caught on a twig that was submerged, my nephew broke the twig in order to release it. Raging rivers are not as ridiculous as they seem whilst jewelry on young children is a very real health risk

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

Wands, as you say, "the fact is, the dogs little collar had got caught on a twig", it was the dog's jewelry, not the child's that was the problem. While it is very fortunate that your nephew and husband were standing right there, and I am sure this was very tramatic for all parties that witnessed this and were involved, this one instance does not make all jewelry on children "a very real health risk".

That's like saying that children have been killed in car accidents, so children should never ride in cars. Children fall off their bikes and get hurt, so they should never ride on bikes. Children trip over untied shoe laces, so, never let them wear shoes.

If one allows the government to establish laws that makes every decision for us and control every moment of our lives, how is this different than becoming "slaves" to our masters, the government? And we get to pay them to do it to us.

No thank you, I think I can make the right decision in regards to if my child can have a baby ring to wear on Sundays at church, at Christmas dinner, or can have a button on her dress, a zipper in the back of her jumper, or one of my childhood books to read, without a government agency or some nutty consumer group telling me that I can't.

[Former_Member]

Dear FayeMaloneDesigns I appreciate your thoughts and respect your opinions on this. I think however that the ring in question was for a infant. In the real world it is often necessary for a child to ride in a car, all children at some point will want to ride a bike and of course children fall over all the time but I have never heard a infant request a ring that could be swallowed. When my son was a infant he tried to climb over the edge of a cot and caught the skin on his finger on the side latch, luckily it only caused a small skin wound, it could have been much different had he been wearing a ring. I know that most parents would only allow the ring to be worn on certain occasions but this is not always the case.
I am not talking about government agencies or consumer groups here, just common sense. Jewelry on infants is totally unesessary and worn for the parents benefit, not the infant. A older child is capable of making a decision a infant is not

[Former_Member]

I have a baby ring that was given to me by my grandmother and my two year old has worn it once on her birthday - she is not the type to put things in her mouth but I still only let her wear it under very close watch and for a half hour, she loved it but I have a 9 month old who puts everything in her mouth and probably won't wear a ring till she's 5!

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

encausticriver
I am not talking about government agencies or consumer groups here, just common sense.

On the contrary, this forum is about a government agency, a government law, a government power grab that affects everyone that makes children's products. It has everything to do with government agencies and radical consumer groups that have written a totally unworkable law that has affected umpteen businesses, small and large. The large ones have paid off the "officials" and the small ones have paid the price. If common sense was in really in question, then this law would have been written entirely differently.

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

encausticriver says:

When my son was a infant he tried to climb over the edge of a cot and caught the skin on his finger on the side latch, luckily it only caused a small skin wound, it could have been much different had he been wearing a ring. I know that most parents would only allow the ring to be worn on certain occasions but this is not always the case.


So because some parents are daft and can't figure out that rings for children should only be worn on special occasions, and under their supervision, and all jewelry regardless of age should be taken off at night, then the government should decide at what age and who should be allowed to wear a ring???? Or should there be a common sense test for prospective parents to see if they have enough common sense to procreate? Perhaps things are different in the UK, you are under a differnt ruling system, but I like to think that most Americans can think for themselves and don't need the government to make all their decisions. Then again, maybe not, I guess thats why we have this nonsense of the CPSIA.

[Former_Member]

The issue at hand is not whether you think baby rings are something you feel is safe or not, rather the issue is one of liability as a business owner. Never underestimate what kind of wacky thing might happen or how stupid someone might be...do you as a business owner want to be held legally accountable??? I am guessing Mcdonald's never thought they would have to write on the side of their coffee cup that the coffee is hot LOL

You can bemoan 'til the end of the day and back that it is ridiculous that they have to do so but that does not change that reality that they do need to do so. Sadly as a business owner who can be held legally accountable you do need to think like this.

Funny story I used to work as a writing consultant for a firm who work with pharmaceutical companies.The company brought us in to help after they lost a lawsuit. A lady sued the company because she became pregnant while using their contraceptive jelly. She could not understand why this had happened as she had been spreading it on her toast EVERY morning!!!! LMAO she won the suit because the packaging was not clear that this was not how she should use it.

Don't be so confident as to what people can sue and win...this was a very large company with many lawyers on their side.

[Former_Member]

I agree..Please think long and hard about this..I discussed this with my hubby and he has worked in Insurance for 30 years.

He has seen people lose everything because of lawsuits.

I testified in court several times as an "Expert" in child care services, because I taught Parenting Classes in the community for years.

If I were to be called in to provide testimony I would without hesitation testify that an infant under no circumstances should wear a ring. The sucking reflex is just too strong. It is innate.

That being said, common sense. Pictures? Heirloom..etc., but for all that say that they would monitor closely..

Children drown accidently, or are crushed by parents who insist on sleeping with their infants. Accidents do happen when parents monitor closely. I know. I have counseled these grieving parents.

I wouldn't risk it for anything, because you may end up with nothing. That is just the reality in the world in which we live.

[Former_Member]

If some parents are daft, DONT LET IT HAPPEN !!!!!!!

[Former_Member]

Absolutely..I agree 100%..We all knew parents who we would look at like they 10 heads if they bought a ring for their infant. Others we know will keep a close eye on we think it's sweet.

So yes, bottom line parent.

I can just hear the court proceedings..

" But Judge it is not the fault of the jewelry maker because she sold an item to Mr. and Mrs.Daft? "

Judge, " If she is making jewelry for an infant then it IS her fault. Mr. and Mrs. Daft assumed that the ring was safe due to the fact that it was being sold, thus creating a market." sigh

[Former_Member]

Where the hell are you comming from??? a Lawsuit? NO WAY!1!!!!111 this is not my thoughts at all are you all frigging paranoined, whats your problem

[Former_Member]

FayeMaloneDesigns
YOU ARE TOTALLY TWISTSING ALL THAT I SAY, MRS DAFT.

[Former_Member]

encaustic..are you talking to me? I need to know before I respond. I was just giving my 2 cents to the OP concerning my experiences in the child care field and my husband's in insurance. I certainly didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers.

[Former_Member]

of course not my love, blessings to you sweetheart!!!

[Former_Member]

So this just made me think...

If you sell something for an **adult** (say a purse) that has a button or a bead on it that could be a choking hazard for an infant, you're not liable if the parent gives the purse to a baby and (heaven forbid!) the baby were to choke?

I know that's kind of off topic, but thinking about choking made me think about all the buttons and beads in my shop... O-o

To the OP: since you're gut instinct was CHOKING HAZARD! I would pass this opportunity by. Just chalk it up to the fact that, not only are you concerned for the infant, but you don't want a lawsuit on your hands.

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Aloha Rob! Happy Holidays!

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

encausticriver says:
Where the hell are you comming from??? a Lawsuit? NO WAY!1!!!!111 this is not my thoughts at all are you all frigging paranoined, whats your problem
Posted at 5:08 pm, December 23 2009 EST - Report this post


encausticriver says:
FayeMaloneDesigns
YOU ARE TOTALLY TWISTSING ALL THAT I SAY, MRS DAFT.


Sorry, I don't know what your problem is, I never used the words lawsuit, I never referred to anyone sueing anyone, be sure who you are referring to before you go balistic. Nor did I ever attack you.

I am not twisting anything you are saying, and I resent you calling me names. I never called you a name, nor did I refer to you as daft. I was referring to unnamed, unknown parents that are daft, we all know some that pay no attention to their children, who don't buckle them into their seatbelts, who dress them inappropriately, do not supervise them. I have no idea if you have children or not, and if you do, I really have no idea what your parenting style is, nor is it any of my business. I really don't care.

I just don't think that laws like the CPSIA need to be written to punish all people for the actions of a few.

YES a ring or any thing smaller that will fit into a toilet paper tube is a choking hazard for a child under 3, I think we all know this, but baby rings are pretty common. They are sold everyday.

Enough already.

[Former_Member]

I am soooooooo confused...Maybe I should just stay up in business where I usually go..ha

[RobWhite]

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