Bibs with ties

[Former_Member]

Hi everyone. I would sure appreciate your feedback on bibs with ties (as opposed to snaps, velcro, etc.)

For example: http://www.etsy.com/listing/63841242/baby-bib

[Former_Member]

I think it's really cute! But I'm also thinking there must be a reason why if you go to any major retailer or manufacturer of baby stuff (Babies R Us, Target, Gerber, Carters) you won't find any bibs with tie closures.

Many consumer safety/parenting websites caution against using them, instead they recommend bibs with closures that break away more easily if they get caught on anything, rather than ties that tighten & could cause strangulation.

[Former_Member]

As a mom with a wee one, I prefer snaps to velcro and ties simply because they are easier to put on a squirmy baby. I prefer snaps, however, because velcro wears out over time and can scratch the delicate skin on the neck. :)
BTW, cute bibs!

[Former_Member]

Like in the good old days :)
Generations of babies have grown up in these bibs, including yours truely, and nobody got strangled.
But I guess with all the recent upgrades, hardly anybody would use them.

[Former_Member]

I think amyblandford is a bit wrong, there are mass market retailers and manufacturers that still make tie close bibs. I've seen them at Kolhs, Baby Depot, and K-Mart.
I do know that they must follow the same rules as items with drawstrings concerning the length the ties can be, in addition to special regulations expressly for bibs like how big the neck opening needs to be before the closure area starts. Ypu might want to go to http://www.CPSC.gov to search for what regulations need to be followed.
As for if they will become popular again with parents of babies who knows. With the CPSIA the tie offs are one way to go if you want to avoid the hassle of having to track down testing info for snaps or buttons (hoop-n-loop tape like VELCRO is exempt), but as amyblandford said there are many other voices caution against using ties in favor of a closure method that breaks away easily if the bib gets caught on anything.

[Former_Member]

I'd say it's all because of the 'fast-money-makers-wannabes' that are looking to sue everything and everybody for a quick buck. Companies try to protect themselves against such... well, persons. For ages people used ties on bibs and nobody died, because they used ties like they were supposed to use them. But unfortunately, nowadays if the coffee is a tad too hot, if the floor is a bit wet, if the bib has ties... SUE them! So sick.

[Former_Member]

Thank you everyone for your feedback. I've been to the website mentioned above, but I find it difficult to navigate to answer this particular question. I'm interested in hearing from others. Thanks!

[FruteJuce]

My little ones had ties on their bibs cos that's all there was back then.
My grandchildren have poppers and velcro because they are easier to put on that having to tie a bib.
All are good it is about preference I suppose.

[Former_Member]

My mom used bibs with ties when I was a baby and I managed not to be harmed. :-) It's simple as watching your babies, I would think. Ties are not a predator.

[Former_Member]

I would never make a bib with ties. I also don't make any with snaps - have heard of babies chewing off the snaps and swallowing them. so many lawsuit crazy people out there - you have to be soooooooo careful. Just wondering if everyone carries insurance for such lawsuits?

[Former_Member]

I saw this the other day- it doesn't specifically mention bibs, but I thought it was somewhat relevant:
http://www.safekids.org/our-work/research/fact-sheets/choking-and-suffocation-prevention-fact-sheet....

"Each year, approximately 873 children ages 14 and under die from airway obstruction injuries."

Also says: "Common items that strangle children include clothing drawstrings, ribbons, necklaces, pacifier strings, and window blind and drapery cords."

So- can't say for certain either way whether anyone's been strangled by ties on a bib, but that makes it pretty hard to believe that it doesn't happen. (Even in the olden days when people "used ties like they were supposed to", whatever that means.)
To be fair- also can't say whether the statistics would be any different for the velcro or snap variety, I don't know of anyone who compiles detailed records on things like that.

I know this sounds morbid, but that's kind of a bummer. I always like actual numbers, 'cause our opinions on whether something is common or never really happens seem to vary according to whether or not we know anyone it's personally happened to.
For example, I had a conversation at lunch today with a pregnant coworker who thinks drinking alcohol while pregnant is fine because her grandmother did it back in the '40s and all four of her kids turned out normal. Once spending just a few hours taking care of a 4-year-old boy with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome was all it took to convince me that it's not fine.
(It was 20 years ago and his name was John and I've never forgotten him. Hearing her say that today just made me want to cry.)
Experience is subjective.

[lizbethsgarden]

As a parent I would never buy a tie bib because they are way too hard to put on a wiggling baby, and because it only takes a second when your back is turned or you look away for an accident to happen.

[Former_Member]

I used bibs with ties for my three kids and they are all still alive and kicking. I'm thinking that, in this day and age, parents are too busy texting and facebooking and the like to watch their children properly(I'll probably get some hate mail from that statement). But I think it's true. My kids had bibs w/ties, they ate hot dogs and did and had all kinds of stuff that there is now legislation against and they survived. I read somewhere that this current generation is the most lauded and pampered generation ever and they don't know how to deal with the trials and tribulations of life anymore. I think it's sad that we are not really preparing them for the real world.

[Former_Member]

I read awhile back that there is a length requirement for hats and bibs for babies. You can use them only if they meet that requirement. Sorry cannot remember exactly where that was.

I personally LIKE ties and Velcro bibs - you can better custom fit them to your child's neck. Eating spaghetti? Tie that bib on tight and leave no gap to have it go tumbling down their clothes. :)

[Former_Member]

What if the baby eats the snaps? It would certainly take some time for a baby to chew off a snap. Are parents really that inattentive, and if so is the manufacturer to blame? Let's say the baby doesn't eat the snap, but it malfunctions, the baby tries to jump out of its high chair, but gets caught on the edge of the tray and strangles itself....Maybe bibs should be outlawed. They are putting babies at risk in the name of clean clothes and less laundry for mom...

[Former_Member]

I agree with you BubblesandSqueaks, I am also not preferred to use ties in making baby bibs. Because baby bibs that has ties are very dangerous for toddlers, it can chocked them badly especially when it is tied incorrectly and they can pull it off easily. Why don't you use baby bibs that has an elastic or adjustable neck.

[FayeMaloneDesigns]

This is a really old thread that you have commented on. If you have a question you are better off to start a new thread. The laws have changed over the last 6 years. Thanks.