underpricing

I've been pondering a lot this weekend about how many talented people are selling their work for so little. Why do people do it? It's so sad. So I wanted to say this...

Dear lovely people of the small business world... please stop underpricing your handmade work. It is worth more. You are worth more. Have faith in yourselves & raise those prices!


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People sell for different reasons. And sometimes, they just want to sell and make it up in volume.
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I just raised my prices this morning. they were $2 less. I have always offered free shipping, but I am going to stop that at the end of February.
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KoutureCrochet - I guess so. Your shop is lovely! I'm forwarding the skinny neck ties info to my brother, he will go crazy for them I think!

Jenni - Yeay! I like your bunting - so cute :)
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I don't offer free shipping--I include it in the price of the piece...because it makes the numbers neater. Perhaps I should stop doing that...
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Free shipping is great - people love that. And if you've built it in already then that's perfect.

I don't really know much about etsy, it just makes me so sad to see such talented people charging pennies for work that must take ages.
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Some people are after the sales rush and think low prices will get them there. Some people haven't yet figured out how much it REALLY costs to do this or they don't factor in their time. . .
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It is also very difficult for artists to think about money ..
When I see someone else's art, I always say "It's so complex! It should cost a lot"
But on mine It's hard ..
Recently been told that my prices a little low .. I am considering raising my prices in $ 2-3 .. You think it's okay?
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sometimes i wonder about the prices of my stuff, because i have low sales i wonder if they are too pricey, but i sell lots at the same price in stores so it must be something else!!
PS im having a sale! how ironic
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I was told by several people on etsy that my pricing was too low (I think mainly on my ACEO), I raised them after a lot of thinking... after about a month and a half and no sales, I put my prices back, keeping a few things a little higher and my sales came back. I make art everyday, and if I don't sell, what I have, my inventory will become too much, it's already too much as is, you should see the box of ACEO's I have to go through whenever I sell one. I make art for therapy, the money I receive for it is just a bonus, and even at my low prices I still tend to make a profit that I'm happy with.

And too, I like the idea that anyone on any budget can afford my work, and I will try to stay available to all wallet sizes for as long as possible.
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It is a delicate balance. Some price for cheaper to move more. Some just want to get rid of something. I know I have had a tendency to underprice if I don't like something. I was extremely surprized when some of those things sold....
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It always frustrates me when I see people making similar things to what I make, but pricing them so low as to make no profit. It makes my things look overpriced, it makes their items look cheap and it throws potential customers for a loop because they don't know which to go for - the inexpensive item that may be cheap, or the more expensive item that looks exactly the same for twice the price.
I make my jewelry for a living, and when people undercut, everyone loses. I always look at those shops and I feel badly for them - they'll never make money doing what they love if they can't profit. I feel like showing them a few of the business books I have on pricing :)
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I have a job that often allows me to stitch during work, which means as some other Etsians have said, it's kind of a bonus to get a little bit of money back from that time investment. And though I haven't had sales every day, I've really done pretty well in terms of getting orders for my stitching work at a steady rate, but one that isn't overwhelming.

Still, it seems based on comparisons to other more established Etsy needlework shops, I'm underpricing my finished stitching by half. Most of what I've got up is between $8-25 (except for a few things that are less!), and many other shops sell items for twice that that might take half the time to stitch.

I've just now started digitizing my patterns so that they can be purchased separately, like many Etsy needlework shops, mainly because I fear if I don't offer a legal way for people to access them, my patterns will be copied (or it will be attempted -- they're surprisingly complex when you actually try to make 'em) without my permission or endorsement...but the process of figuring out how to price those has been difficult.

This is, I'm sure, a particular needlework issue, and not something that applies across the board.

But I'm glad to see some encouragement to keep prices relevant to the actual effort spent making the items we're offering. And any tips for how to find the correct price point (other than the simple hours x wage you pay yourself + materials) would be read and greatly appreciated. Does it "pay" ultimately to start out more inexpensive while you're building an Etsy presence, and raise prices as you go?
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I have thought about this a lot and for a long time. It is the hardest part of being an artist in my opinion.
I think my work may be underpriced. It certainly doesn't reflect the time spent on each piece. On the other hand, the jewelry in my inventory is from the years I first began making it and everything took me forever.
I hoped to raise prices on new pieces when I get back into my studio in May. I would appreciate any direction/guidance/advice on this issue. I don't have to make a living at this and I do want to build a business on Etsy. Help, please! And thanks for raising the topic!
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PoetryUnspoken
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I think it's true, the nature of an artist is often far from that of a business person. Being an artist is usually something inborn, while talking money is often something that has to be learned... IMO. With me, I started pricing low just hoping to be able to sell something. My materials and tools, and the time I spend though, are not cheap so I've had to raise my prices... and still don't know if I'm under or over pricing? It's just not the most fun part of creating you know? lol! :) But I have to make an effort and research the market if I want to continue doing what I do.
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I prefer to price my items accordingly and keep several price points in my store so that people can choose from different items they can afford. I've found it is less about the price of the item and more about the presentation and availability(color choices and sizes)
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i think pricing is tough, especially when you are starting out. i know i completely under priced many items even after sitting down and considering all of the costs. heck, i probably still dont have my pricing right.

heres a handy dandy calculator: http://rolbe.com/etsy.htm
it calculates etsy/paypal fees, shipping costs, etc to help you determine your total profit

hope it helps someone :)
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Laura Clempson from cupcakesforclara says
KoutureCrochet - I guess so. Your shop is lovely! I'm forwarding the skinny neck ties info to my brother, he will go crazy for them I think!

Jenni - Yeay! I like your bunting - so cute :)

Posted at 6:32 pm Feb 11, 2012 EST - Report this post
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Thank you so much.

I think at one point I was selling my ties for $20 which doesn't begin to cover my tie, but I didn't think it was worth anything do I didn't think it was underpricing, so I think low self esteem has a part to play sometimes.
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TNTees - Thanks for the calculator! That is super helpful!
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Thanks, TNTees! That's a very helpful calculator.
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Been gradually raising my prices... Started out about 15 a heart...up to 20-22 now pending the type glass(my costs vary a LOT), same with the icicles.
IDK it's a confidence thing.
Found as my hearts have gotten better, and my photography has gotten better....the price is creeping up.

Heck the guy who taught me how to make hearts this way. Lists and sells just to fanboys off FB for 60-80.00 a heart and they go in mins...now there is a dream for ya.
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I think Sarah has hit the nail on the head. Sadly, it is a market driven world and if it sits in my inventory it costs me money. I try to balance my labor and my expenses but it is a buyer's market right now...
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After reading all the post. and checking on the calculator, I think i have underpriced my itherm.. I will run the calculator againg to make price right. thank you

yemm
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This will be a long debated issue.

From being a newbie to a veteran etsy seller many have their own personal thoughts and ideas about pricing.

There's really no clear answer and its as individual as the crafter and artisan's who sell here.

Some can hon in and manipulate their material at a quicker pace, therefore being able to price out for the supply and yet save money for their customers by cutting 'hourly' cost.

Some have very little cost for their supplies, because they collect, obtain or recycle their materials. Yet others insist on having the very best supplies and charge nominally for the end product.

Its so personal that I always find these threads amusing......not you the post-ee. But the conversation that follows.

We are not brain surgeons. We're creative folk trying to brand and market a product that we make by hand. Celebrate the handmade process, encourage others to make handmade and to purchase handmade. Those who don't price accordingly, they will eventually.
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I learned how to price and sell years ago when I did craft shows. I am a trained fine and commercial artist anyways and just picked up jewelry making real quick. I learn by looking and evaluating something, I work it out in my head how it should be done. Oftentimes, I end up with a creative solution that hasn't been done yet. Pricing at the shows was easy as I looked around at what other similar artists were doing and decided if I wanted to sell more at a cheaper price or fewer at a higher price. I went middle of the road and made a killing at shows. Online is harder, not at the pricing thing, but at getting more business. But it is fun and I am marketing myself and I will get more sales eventually. We are worth a higher price, but be honest with yourself and your product. Look at it with new eyes and be sure it is good, or at least as good as the market average.
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