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Updates to Etsy's list of prohibited items

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WildRoseHerbs
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FYI everyone who sells bath and beauty products, they are coming down HARD on this one without discussing it publicly. Funny, as this will make it impossible for many of us to sell, including many celebrated "featured" artists. I'll be writing a full piece on this shortly, answers are apparently hard to come by at this time.
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I think its a good change in the bath and beauty area. Wish and hope they can come up with more details as to the types of wording they are having a problem with.

When it comes to wording and making medical claims this is nothing new in the industry. Even the simple statement that your bath soap is moisturizing is a no-no. All you can say about it is it smells good (if it does) and it cleans.

All other items making claims to cure something such as dry skin, wrinkles or what ever have always been controled by the FDA and unless you have your product approved by them you can't sell it as helping to cure anything.

I think it is Etsy catching up with these many violations to the federal laws and a very good thing for the general public's safety and the reputation Etsy has worked so hard on.

I just hope they can give everyone fair time to look over their shops and make changes that are needed and give gently reminders on the listings still not meeting these new changes.
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While I appreciate the care they take with their wording, I wonder if their time might also be well-spent looking at resellers. I am less concerned, personally, with someone calling his or her lotion "moisturizing" than with someone selling mass-produced items marketed as handmade.

That said, I'm all for clarity in language. :)
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Laura,
You have a great point! It would be nice to see the resellers gone. My problem with that is I don't know how to spot them to report them...


I think as it was it was a huge liability for them. The Federal Gov. is not going to grab hold of them over resellers (I don't think) but sure will over them allowing the sale of unregulated, unapproved or tested drugs. In the eye of the Gov. that is what these products are when the product makes a claim it will fix or cure something.

I'm just as gulity...I had listings that needed fixing, when selling an herb its helpful to know what it can do, and how it commonly used, but now thats a no-no. This might or might not hurt sales, it will depend if the customer knows what the herb is or is willing to look the info. up off from Etsy.

Time will tell, in the mean time I am more than happy to make adjustment to our listing.
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I would think that a blanket statement of "These statements are not approved by the FDA" would suffice for bath/beauty type of products. I see them on labels ALL the time - even for things like vitamins!
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I don't understand these crack downs. They're worried about what someone is calling their soap, but you can sell food up here, which is something you actually ingest? They want to make sure of this or that being handmade, or whatever, and crack down here, then welcome on board 50 more resellers. Priorities seem a little skewed.
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It is illegal to make the claim that your product will treat, cure or have any effect whatsoever on a disease or medical condition, unless you have gone through years of testing and the whole FDA approval process. That's why drugs cost so darn much.

It is true that dietary supplements or herbal preparations must include the following verbiage on their label- "This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease" but there are many other labeling restrictions that must be adhered to as well to avoid getting into trouble with the FDA. Even though you aren't ingesting the soaps or lotions, an active ingredient can still be absorbed through your skin. It's safer for your business to stay mute on what the ingredient is purported to do. If it were my business, I'd prefer to have Etsy contact me about these statements before the FDA does.

Food sellers are subject to the laws and health codes in their areas. It's not illegal to sell food, and nobody is saying that their cookies are going to cure cancer- just that they're yummy. How is buying food or treats from a seller online any different from buying them from a church or school bake sale?

Re-sellers do suck and they're totally violating the Etsy TOS, but what they're doing is not exactly illegal. They can be hard to spot, but sometimes it's really easy- for example if something is described as "handmade in Guatemala" but the shop is based in Ohio.

I'm glad that Etsy is making these changes, it shows that they're actually looking out for the best interests of both sellers and customers.
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I think it should be clarified that it is not a no-no to call a soap "moisturizing" ...that DOES NOT make it a "drug"..that makes it a COSMETIC. Which means you must include a full listing of ingredients with the item as well as follow the FDA labeling guidelines which can easily be found online. I really don't understand why anyone would start selling any product without doing their research on this matter. I spent hours and hours and hours reading the regulations to make sure I was in compliance with labeling laws on my bath and body products, and any time I've found myself to be in error, I've pulled the listing immeadiately until I have the corrected information on it.
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But I'm definitely marking this post to keep updated with any changes that are made....
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