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copyrighted patterns and selling on etsy

So how does a knitter handle seeing other knitters blatantly sell other people's designs on etsy with no reference to the designer? Their knitting skills are amazing but the work is not their design. In cross referencing to their Ravelry page it is obvious they know their etsy sales are not on the up and up.
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This is an old story. I would suggest you report to Etsy.
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Re: copyrighted patterns and selling on etsy

i decided i don't care. karma is in charge. Sorry for repeating an old post.
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It seems like there are a ton of post on this here right now. I just started a thread in another forum. Form what people are saying, If you copyright a pattern, no one can sell your pattern, but can make and sell what ever they want, with or withour your permission.

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I've seen patterns for sale on Etsy that specifically say that the pattern is for personal use only, and that the item can not be made for sale from the pattern. Can they stop you from selling items from the pattern you purchased if they state that in the description of the pattern? I've seen some really cute patterns that I would have purchased to make & sell the finished product but didn't because of the seller restricting that.
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This is a responce that I received in another forum and seems to be correct. This was a responce that was sent to the person that posted in my thread.



"Copyright in a pattern normally pertains to the pattern itself, i.e., to the written instructions, diagrams and/or pictures, not to the object that is constructed from the pattern. If the pattern, however, includes original artwork that would be incorporated into the work that is made, then a person may need permission to use it commercially. An example of that would be a knitting pattern depicting original artwork. An example of the opposite would be a dress pattern: the dress made from the pattern is not subject to copyright protection."

Here are two examples where both patterns, i.e., the written instructions and artwork, are protected by copyright, but only one of the products made from the patterns would be protected. A pattern for a sweater made with standard knitting stitches, such as a cable stitch or a popcorn stitch, is protected by copyright; however, the sweater made from the pattern contains no copyrightable artwork because it consists of standard stitches, no matter how attractive the sweater is. On the other hand, a pattern for a sweater that depicts original artwork — let’s say a mountain scene with a deer — is protected both in the form of the pattern and in the form of the sweater. The artwork on the sweater is protected by copyright. In the first instance, a person using the pattern can produce sweaters commercially, but not be infringing a copyright because the distribution of the sweaters is not distributing any copyrightable authorship. In the second example, by distributing the sweaters, the person is also distributing copies of the original artwork and would normally need permission.”
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@dclinch - please, I hope you did not think I was being rude. (I am afraid I came off sounding that way.) it's just that I find it so revolting that people stoop to those levels and my anger showed thru. In previous discussions it was pointed out just how hard the designers work to come out with a pattern. To me, it was mind-boggling -- the creating, writing, testing, submitting, re-testing, etc, etc, only to have your hard work claimed by someone else. Yes, there prob is legal recourse, IF you have the time, nerves, and $$ to fight in court over what? A $5 pattern or a principle?

So, you see, I do feel very strongly about this. Just did not want to subject you all to my rant. Again, dclinch, my apologies.
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I think I will rethink selling patterns.
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