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Help!! I'm Dyeing!!!

Okay...so I will probably never dye my own fiber again~that is, until I forget what a mess it was, last time, that is.:)

I wanted red. So, I got Kool-aid...It wasn't enough, so I got some Ritt. I added salt...
So, then, I got my red roving~ all 2 lbs. of it.
However, it was really tough, and hard!

I recalled someone telling me to use a little hair conditioner, to soften some yarn, so I- living in the moment- decided to add some hand lotion and then a bit of olive oil, and washed it again. I know. It also never dawned on me, with my elbows up to red dye, to use fabric softener.

I still have hard fiber! I can't remember if the Kool-aid had sugar, or not, but I rinsed and rinsed this fiber....

What do I use to soften up this fiber? I don't want to shred it, by trying any more experiments, until I get some professional advice! I feel like I have one more shot at it....

Thanks, in advance, for the rescue!:)
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Re: Help!! I'm Dyeing!!!

Oh my, Tracie. I'm not sure I can help rescue your fiber, but I might be able to give you some pointers for the future!!

What fiber did you dye? What method did you use...did you dye it in a giant pot?

Okay, first: What do you mean by "hard fiber?" Does it feel hard to the touch? Or have you tried spinning it and discovered that it's hard to draft?

Kool-aid is fine to use for dyeing. To achieve a medium shade for 4 ounces of wool, you'll probably need 4 packets of the sugar-free color(s) of your choice.

There is citric acid present in the Kool-aid, which is important for the color to adhered permanently to the fiber. Citric acid changes the chemical structure of the wool and allows it to accept the dye colors permanently.

Food coloring is also fine to use (in case you decide to experiment in the future!), just be sure to have access to plenty of distilled white vinegar. You'll need approximately 1 cup per 8 ounces of wool, although I've heard more or less depending on the source.

Now, to address the hair conditioner issue. Yes, adding conditioner will make wool soft again after dyeing. However, it's best to add the conditioner to the water_first_before adding the wool. This will dissolve into a solution and thus be more homogenous instead of clumpy. Otherwise, you might have a tough time rinsing it out (and it'll make the wool feel lotion-y while spinning). Fabric softener is best. :)

Rit dye should only be used to dye non-natural fibers. The reason why you probably had so much red dye coming off the fiber was because of the way those dyes are created. Rit dye is actually multiple different kinds of dye mixed together in the same bottle. Each of the kinds will dye only a certain type of material, and if what you're trying to dye isn't one of those types, the dye sits in there being useless. So, there's a lot of wasted dye. (Commercially dyed man-made fibers are horrible for the environment for many of these same reasons).

How much squeezing/pressing did you do to the fiber during the dyeing/washing process? Fibers that you plan to dye should be treated like finely blown glass figurines--no joke! When you're getting them wetted out for dyeing, be sure to use a gentle up and down motion with your hands. No agitating, no swirling or tossing, no pressing hard or squeezing. Because the wool hasn't be spun yet, it will wet out much faster than yarn will because it has more trapped air.

While dyeing, try to keep the swirling to an absolute minimum. I take an old cooking spoon and dip it under the fiber and gently turn the whole mass end-over-end. If you're dyeing multiple colors in the same pot, keep the poking and proding to a minimum, especially while it's hot.

So, I'm sorry I don't really have an answer to how to fix your problem, but it sounds to me like you felted the wool. If you're having trouble drafting the fibers for spinning, or you hear ripping sounds, that's a good indicator of felted wool. I'm speaking from experience. :)

Others, please feel free to correct my reply. Although I've been doing this for a while now, I'm not infallible. :)

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I agree with Jennifer that it sounds like the fiber has felted, based on what you are saying about it feeling hard. (If it is felted, that is not reversible.) She gives you lots of great advice for try number 2, but I'll also add the following:

I like to dye using my oven. Use an oven-proof pot that you only use for dyeing. Add hot water, white vinegar (I always use more rather than less - it seems to soften wool), and the kool aid. Gently add your fiber as Jennifer says above, then cover tightly and place in a 180 degree F oven. I check in an hour and see if the color has all been absorbed. Sometimes yes, sometimes it needs longer. Once the dye is absorbed, take the pot out of the oven and let it cool. I always rinse in a water bath with added white vinegar that is the same temperature as my fiber. Gently squeeze (don't wring) out the excess water and let air dry.

The reason I like the oven method is because there is no possibility of boiling the wool as could happen on the stovetop. You can also just walk away and do other things rather than babysitting your yarn pot.

Life's mistakes are our greatest teachers. You may be passing up a really great (and addicting) experience if you let your first attempt get you down.
I hope you'll try again! :-)

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Re: Help!! I'm Dyeing!!!

When I've finished the rinsing process (which I try to keep minimal, to prevent felting), I take it to my washer and give it a good spin. The fiber will be fine since there isn't any agitation, but it gets most of the water out and you don't have to wait days to be able to use it! :)

Just be sure that the spin cycle on your washer doesn't spit water at the fiber during the spin cycle.
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Re: Help!! I'm Dyeing!!!

So....Yes, it feels hard to the touch...
The seller thought that I might have felted it, too.. The more I look at it, I think that I would have to agree! I did agitate it, a bit, and with wool, well....what was I thinking?! (I sort of get in, over my head, and tend to go with it, instead of stepping back and thinking it through, obviously!:)

However, I have some hand carders, and it appears that it is salvagable, though it will be a tedious project, to comb it out!! At least it is not wasted, and I don't have to weave it into a giant, red, super thick basket!!

Thank you so much, for your advice!!!
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Re: Help!! I'm Dyeing!!!

Try using a set of combs instead of carders to salvage the fiber.
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